Prime Minister Modi Inspecting Guard of Honour

Prime Minister Modi Inspecting Guard of Honour

Thursday, December 31, 2009

HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR  2010 TO ALL VETERANS AND THEIR                                                                      FAMILIES                                                              


Monday, December 28, 2009


This is the email sent by one of our regular member

Why govt is DARED OT TAKE SUCH DRASTIC DECISION AGAINST DISABLE SOLDERS,BECAUSE,EVER BEGGAR IS JEALOUS ABOUT OTHER BEGGAR, HE NEVER THINKS ABOUT TATA OR BIRLA. i.e. every solider is having problem wih NK every NK has problem with Havildar, ever havildar has problem with N/Sub and so on upto Generals and generals has problem with under secretary and so on.
Respected sir, to resolve all this problems, ALL EXSM to be united and spend some money to enter legal battle and win the case, if  all  ESM  join the movement and spend some money i.e. 1200000XSM X Rs 1000/= is equal to Rs1200000000/= what is the amount? no decision will go against EXSM. But all EXSM  want   to  eat fruit without doing anything, WHICH IS NOT ON, if EXSM are not intrested in their benifit, they should not cry on blog.
Thanks and regards,
Ex Sgt Walawalkar JY

Monday, December 21, 2009






The pension of pre 1-1-2006 ex-servicemen in implementation of the recent recommendations of the 6th CPC has to be revised as per MOD’s letter dated 11-11-2008 which is also available on the website, and

Annexure IV to MOD’s aforementioned letter which has 16 columns is required to be completed by all Pension Disbursing Authorities (PDAs) and given to the pensioners. In Column 12 of the Annexure IV details of of computation of revised pension/ family pension are to be indicated while in Column 13 arrears of pension/ family pension are to be mentioned by the Banks.

Deptt of Financial Services have issued clear instructions to the Chief Executives pf all public sector banks to complete the task of revision of pension expeditiously and supply Annexure-IV duly filled in to the Ex-serviceman pensioners vide their letter F. no. 2/2/2008-BO.II dated 25th September 2009 and F. No. 2/2/2008-BO.II dated 15th December 2009.

Therefore, the ex-servicemen pensioners should obtain a copy of Annexure IV from the respective Pension Disbursing banks. The concerned Banks are also requested to supply Annexure IV duly completed to all ESM pensioners so that correctness of entitlement of pension can be ascertained by them.

This notice is being issued by the department of Financial Srvices (Ministry of Finance) and the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare (Ministry of Defence) in public interest.

Source: IESM

Saturday, December 19, 2009

National Anomaly Committee Meeting and decisions. from K.K.N. Kutty Secretary General

Dated: 14th December, 2009

Dear Comrade,

            The first meeting of the National Anomaly Committee was held on 12th December, 2009. Secretary (Personnel) chaired the meeting.  On behalf of the Confederation, Com. S.K. Vyas, President and Com. K.K.N. Kutty Secretary General attended and participated in the discussion.  In the opening remark, Com. Umraomal Purohit drew the attention of the Chairman of the non-functioning of the Departmental Councils in various departments and the consequent non setting up of Departmental Anomaly Committees.  He also raised the issue of the order of the DOPT defining the term Anomaly, which was at variance with the one given in 1997.  He recalled the discussion he had with the official side in the matter when it was agreed that the definition of the term would be the same as was in the order of 1997.  Responding to the remarks made by the Staff Side Secretary, the Chairman said that his office would take steps to ensure the functioning of the JCM at all levels and informed the meeting that the National Council of the JCM would meet on 16th January, 2009 and the notice therefore has already been issued.  On the question of anomaly, it was informed by the Chairman, that all efforts would be taken to address all questions of anomaly and resolve them.  The official side clarified that all questions of disparity in relativities would also be addressed except on  those on which the 6th CPC has gone into and taken decision enumerating reasons.  The Chairman asked the staff Side to bring to the notice of the DOPT/DOE of all those items which stand rejected by the concerned Departmental Anomaly Committees taking shelter under the extant definition. 

            We now reproduce the items which were discussed and the decisions arrived on each of them. 

  1. The item Nos. 1 to 4 and 5(iii)(iv) and 7 were grouped together and discussed as they were identical in content.  For the sake of convenience, we reproduce item No. 3 which covers all the above mentioned items.

Fixation of Pay in Revised Pay Scale
The VI CPC in para 2.2.19 (vii) has indicated that where prerevised pay scales have been merged it has been done by extending the existing minimum prescribed for the highest pay scale with which the other scales are being merged. Accordingly it has also been stipulated in 7(1) (A) of the CCS (Revised pay) Rules, 2008 that if the minimum of the Revised pay Band / pay Scale is more that what is determined by multiplying the existing basic pay as on 1.1.2006 by a factor of 1.86 and rounding of the resultant figure to the next multiple of 10, the pay shall be fixed at the minimum of the revised pay Band / pay Scale. Note 2B below Rule 7, ibid and illustration 4B given in the Explanatory Memorandum to the Revised pay Rule apply to cases of merger of pay Scales.  Note 2 B states that pay in the revised Pay Bands will be fixed in the manner prescribed in accordance with Clause (A) (i) And clause (A) (ii) of Rule 7. In illustration 4B a case of an employee in the pre revised pay scale Rs.5000-8000 drawing Rs.5600 as on 1.1.2006 in the pay scale of 6500-10500 has been indicated with which the pay scale of Rs.5000-8000 stands merged.

Taking these into account the pay in the Pay Band in the case of all employees in the Pay Scales of Rs.5000-8000 and Rs.5500-9000 has to be fixed at Rs. 6500 multiplied by 1.86 i.e. Rs.12090. The fixation tables for pay scales 5000-8000 and 5500-9000may therefore be modified fixing the pay in the pay band at Rs.12090 wherever it is less than that amount.

Illustration 4B in the explanatory memorandum to the Revised Pay Rules 2008 may be modified as under:-
Existing Scale of Pay                             5000-8000
Pay Band PB-2                                    9300-34800
Merged with Pay Scale                         6500-10500
Existing Basic Pay as on 1.1.06 Rs.5600
Pay in the PB-2  Rs.5600 X 1.86 = 10420    As per Clause (A) (i) of Rule 7(i) of Revised Pay rules 2008
Pay in the PB-2  Rs.6500- X 1.86 = 12090      As per Clause (A) (ii) of Rule 7 (i) of Revised Pay Rules 2008
            Grade Pay Rs.4200
Revised Basic Pay  Rs.16290
The Staff Side pointed out that what has been recommended by the 6th CPC in Para 2.2.19(vii_ in respect of fixation of minimum pay in the Pay band for merged pay scales had not been taken into account while computing the pay band and the table.  After some discussion, the official side stated to have a re-look into the matter.
Item No. 5(i)
On Revised Pay Rules. 2008
It has been mentioned under sub rule 4 thereof that the option once exercised shall be final and should be exercised within three months from the date of notification of the rule vide Sub rule I thereof. Since it is very difficult to comprehend and assess the implication of such option, we propose that the first option exercised within three months may not be treated as final and the employees be permitted to revise the option within six month of the date of exercising the first option.

The official side has agreed to allow another option.  The Side Side also pointed out during the discussion that the option exercised by the officials under F.R. 22(I)(A(1) on promotion has been restricted to only first promotion, which appears to be unreasonable.  The official side has agreed to examine whether the above option can be allowed to cover all promotions.

Item No. 5(ii)
(ii). Special allowance and qualification pay which are taken for fixation purposes on promotion should be doubled with effect from 1.1.2006 and not from 1.9.2008 as it cannot be construed to be an allowance. If this is not done, senior employees will suffer loss in emoluments, in case of persons who are promoted during the period between 1.1.2006 and 1.9.2008.
It was pointed out that the item relating to 5th CPC is still pending at the Standing Committee.  The Official Side stated that the item would be covered when a decision is taken on the item relating to 5th CPC.

Item No. 5(vi)
(vi) Rule 9. Date of next increment
It is seen after going through the stipulation in the above rules that a person whose increment falls on 1.1.2006 will get the increment on 1.1.2006 in the pre revised pay scale and will get the next increment in the revised pay structure on 1.7.2006 i.e. on expiry of six months. Similarly those, whose next increment is between 1st July, 2006 and 1st December, 2006 would also be granted next increment in the revised pay structure on 1.7.2006. On the other hand, the persons whose increment dates are between 1st Feb. 2006 and 1st June 2006 have to wait for more than 12 months to get the next increment on 1.7.2006. This is quite anomalous. In the case of those who retire during the period between 1st Feb. and 30th June, they will suffer a loss of one increment perpetually thus affecting their pension. It is, therefore proposed that the persons whose increment falls between 1st February and 1st June, 2006 may be given one increment on 1.1.2006 as a one time measure.

The official side agreed to issue orders to cover those in service between 1.1.2006 and 1.7.2006 as a one time measure.  The Staff Side however, pointed out that they have made the suggestion for a one time measure on the specific understanding that Rule 9 of the Revised Pay Rules 2008 has no applicable in the fixation of increment date in future as in those cases, the Fundamental Rules will have the application.  The Official side was of the opinion that the Revised Pay Rules will override the provisions of the Fundamental Rules.  The Staff Side then contended that the increment of an official cannot be postponed except on award of a penalty after  initiation of the disciplinary proceedings. The official side after some discussion agreed to reconsider the issue in the light of the contention made by the Staff Side. 

Item  No. 5(vii).
(vii).     Tax deduction from salary:
Spread over of the arrears of salary is permissible under section 89 (a) of the I.T. Act.  No tax will thus become payable by Group D employees on account of receipt of arrears eventually. Therefore, executive instructions may be issued not to deduct any tax from the arrears payment pertaining to the Group D employees. In respect of others, they may be allowed to exercise option to tax the arrears either on receipt basis or accrual basis.

Decision .
Since the arrears have all been paid after deduction of tax, this item was not pressed.

Item No. 5(vii)Temporary Status Casual Labourers

As per existing scheme the employees who are afforded temporary status are paid the wages computed with reference to the minimum of the corresponding scale of pay of regular employees. In the case of Group D temporary status employees, it will become necessary that they are afforded the requisite training if they are non- matriculates.


Orders would be issued in the case of temporary status employees.  In the case of those who died /retired between 1.1.06 and 1.9.2008 grant of grade pay of Rs. 1800 without training was raised by the Staff Side.  It was agreed that the Govt. would take a decision in their case  favorably.

            Item No. 6.

Benefit on promotion.

It is an accepted proposition that an employee when promoted to a higher post involving higher responsibility should get a suitable raise in his salary. It was on this consideration that FR 22-C was framed whereby the promotee was first granted an increment in the lower Pay Scale and then fixed at the appropriate (next) stage in the higher grade.

At the time of V CPC it was agreed that minimum increase in salary on promotion shall not be less then Rs.100/- There are certain grades in which, on promotion, a hike of Rs.650/- is being allowed with reference to pre-revised pay scale.

In these circumstances grant of only one increment in the lower Pay Band / Pay scale and difference in grade pay, if there be any, being granted on promotion is certainly inadequate. We therefore propose that minimum benefit on promotion should not be less than 10% of the Pay+Grade Pay of the feeder post.


The official side stated that the above item was not covered under the definition of anomaly.  However, after some discussion, it was agreed that the official side would further discuss the issue outside the forum  of the Anomaly Committee.

Item No. 7.
Fixation of pay on promotion.
The minimum Entry pay with Grade Pay in the revised pay structure for direct recruits appointed on or after 1.1.2006 has been specific vide first Schedule, Part –A, Section II of the Gazette Notification of the Govt. of India, Ministry of Finance No. G.S.R. 622 (E) dated 29.8.2008.
On promotion, the pay of the promotees should not be less than the direct recruits.

In VI CPC structure there is no pay scale and new concept of grade pay has been inducted, which should determine the status.  As such the following provisions need to be inserted below clarification 2.  'The method of Fixation of Pay on promotion on or after 1.1.2006.

"on promotion to the higher grade pay of an employee should be fixed appropriately and in any case it should not be less than the entry Pay in the revised pay structure for direct recruits appointed on of after 1.1.2006 for the post." further, on promotion to the next higher grade pay an employee should be fixed by adding 10% of pay, plus the grade pay as demanded by NC/JCM in its memorandum submitted to the Chairman, NC/JCM/Cabinet secretary on 8.4.2008.

The Official Side agreed to issue enabling orders in the matter.

Item No. 8.

Refixation of pension/family pension.

Para 9 of the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension's O.M. No. F.No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 1.9.2008 states as under:-
"The consolidated pension / family pension as worked out in accordance with provisions of para 4.1 above shall be treated as final basic pension with effect from 1.1.2006 and shall qualify for grant of Dearness Relief sanctioned thereafter.".

This has left uncovered the provision made in para 4.2 of the same OM, which lays down as under:-

"The fixation of pension will be subject to the provision that the revised pension in no case, shall be lower than fifty present of the minimum of the pay in the pay band plus the grade pay corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired. In the case of HAG + and above scales, this will be fifty percent of the minimum of the revised pay scale."

Since refixation of pension has been allowed both under paras 4.1 and 4.2, they should both he covered in para 9 of the OM.  It is requested that para 9 of the said OM may be revised including both paras 4.1 and 4.2 thereof.

Orders have been issued vide O.M.dated 12th and 14th September, 2009

Item. No. 9.

Anomaly in pension for Government Servants who retired/Died in harness between 1.1.2006 and 1.9. 2006
The Sixth Central Pay Commission lays down inter-alia that once an employee renders the minimum pensionable service of 20 years, pension should be paid at 50% of the average emoluments received during the past 10 months or the pay last down, whichever is more beneficial to the retiring employee.

As per the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension O.M. F.No. 38/37/08-P&P(W)(A) dated 2nd September 2008, these orders shall come into force with effect from the date of issue of this OM, namely 2nd September 2008 and shall be, applicable to all Government Servants becoming entitled to pension after rendering the minimum qualifying service of 20 years or on completion of 10 years qualifying service in accordance with rule 49(2) of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972.

However, the Govt. servants who have retired on or after 1.1.2006 but before the date of issue of this OM (2.9.2008) have been debarred from this benefit. They will be governed by the rules/ orders which were in force immediately before coming into effect of these orders. In other words their pension will be calculated on average emoluments received during the last 10 months and not on the actual pay last drawn. It is requested that this discrimination should be removed.

Orders are under issue.  The Staff Side raised the inordinate delay in fixing the revised pension and disbursement of arrears to pensioners.  The official side assured to monitor the payment of arrears to pensioners.  The refusal on the part of many banks to issue the due and drawn statement even on requisition was also brought to the notice of the Chairman.  The Director (Pension) assured that suitable instructions would be issued in this regard to all Banks.

Item No.10.
Commutation of pension.

The minimum period of service for eligibility for pension is 10 years. For appointment to Government Service the minimum age is 18 years. In view of this, if a person is appointed at the age of 18 years he cannot become eligible for pension unless he has served for a period of at least 10 years and attained the age of 28 years i.e. when his birthday falls in the 29th years.

The table adopted a per the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension's OM No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 2.9.2008 shows the minimum age of next birthday after retirement as 20 which is not understood. It is requested that suitable amendment to the table referred to may be notified.

The item was withdrawn by the Staff Side.

Item No.11 to 14. These items were deferred for discussion at the next meeting.

Item No.15.
Parity in pension of all pre 1996 retirees with those who retired on or after 1.1.2006

The Government have already accepted in principle that there shall be parity in pension amongst pensioners irrespective of the date from which they had retired. 
Accordingly pension of all pre 1986 retirees was revised with effect from 1.1.96 by first determining the notional pay which would have been fixed as on 1.1.86 (treating as if the employees were in service on that date) and then the Notional Pension was updated by applying the same fitment formula which was applied to serving employees.
We, therefore demanded that the notional pay of all pre 1996 retirees may be fixed as on 1.1.96 in terms of Revised Pay Rules, 1996 and the notional pension as on 1.1.96 may be revised w.e.f. 1.1.06 by applying the same fitment formula which is applied in the case of serving employees i.e. by multiplying the notional pension as on 1.1.96 by 1.86 + the Grade Pay of the Pay Scale (V CPC) from which they would have retired.

The revision of pension has been done by applying the formula of Basic Pension as on 1.1.96 + Dearness Pension (50% of Basic Pension) + Dearness Relief on Basic Pension + Dearness Pension+40% of Basic Pension.

This is not the same that has been granted to serving employees. In whose case the Grade Pay which is the fitment benefit is 40% of the maximum of the Pre-revised Pay Scale.
As such the Pensioners should also be granted 50% the of Grade Pay of the Pay Scale from which they had retired by way of fitment benefit and not 40% of Basic Pension.

The Staff Side pointed out that the 6th CPC in order to maintain the existing modified parity between the present and future retirees had indicated that it would be necessary to allow the same fitment benefit as is being recommended for the existing Government employees vide para 5.1.47 in page 338.  However, the Commission recommended that all past pensioners should be allowed fitment benefit equal to 40% of the basic pension. The statement and the recommendation made to give effect to the statement was at variance giving rise to anomaly and disparity in pension entitlement between the past pensioners and the future pensioners.  After detailed discussion, the official side agreed to consider the issue once again.

At the conclusion of the meeting, the Staff Side took up the matter concerning non representation of Postal Federations in the National Council as some members of a Federation which could not muster even 5% membership had been approaching one court or the other in a bid to delay the verification process and consequent recognition of the Associations and Federations in the Postal Department.  As it would be a never ending process,  the denial for the unions who had mustered more than 75% of the membership representation in the National Council would be a miscarriage of justice, the Staff Side added..  The Director (SR) of the Postal Department, who had represented the Postal Department in the official side agreed with the contention of the Staff Side and reported to the Chairman, that they had granted adhoc recognition to the Unions who had mustered the requisite membership and the Department Council had also been convened and met on adhoc basic.  The question of granting of representation to the representatives of the Staff in the National Council had been referred to the Department of Personnel and their advice in the matter was being solicited.  The Chairman assured the Staff Side to look into the matter and take appropriate decision soon.

The denial of revised higher Grade Pay to Master Craftsmen of Workshops in MMS in the Postal Department, while affording the same to those in Railways and Defence was also raised by the Staff Side.  The Department of Expenditure pointed out that they had not received any reference from the Postal Department in this matter, whereas the official side representative of the Postal Department stated that they had referred this matter to them earlier.  After some discussion, it was agreed that the Department of Expenditure and the Postal Department would sort out this matter expeditiously.

With greetings,
Yours fraternally,

K.K.N. Kutty
Secretary General

Wednesday, December 9, 2009




Monday, December 7, 2009

8% DA increment from January 2010?

Monday, December 7, 2009

The information given below is only openion. Please dont take it for authenticated one.
As per the figures available from Labour Bureau, Government of India ( it can be assumed that minimum of 8% DA hike can be assumed from January 2010, totaling 35% from current 27%. This is calculated assuming that the All India Consumer Price Index (AICPI) remains unchanged for November and December, which are yet to be announced. These figures for November and December 2009 will be announced on 31 Dec 2009 and 29 Jan 2010 respectively. Keeping in view of the rapidly rising prices, the figures are expected to increase further


Monday, November 16, 2009

CWP NO. 6223/2007

For Punjab & Haryana High Court Order on PBORs please click here which was mentioned in by Ex-Sgt.Gavini.

Sunday, November 15, 2009



                     This    letter is written as per the  collective decision of the members of a blog named are a  group of veterans   who   regularly interact  and exchange ideas on matters of   common benefit  and interest to the veteran fraternity.

                      We  are aware that  your ORGANISATION is engaged in the  task of ensuring the welfare and wellbeing of the veterans  and interact and intervene in the subject with the concerned authorities  including  GOI. Your contributions  towards this noble cause  deserves  special mention and your services will surely be cherished  by the veteran  fraternity.

                          You might be aware of the fact that  the pensionary benefits  extended to the combatants other  than officers  as per the  6CPC is  totally disappointing  and the pension tables  notified are full of anomalies and inconsistencies .The GOI  constituted  two committees to look into the matter  and  the  committees  submitted their reports.

                           But    improvements in the  pensionary benefits are still awaited and certain recommendations of the committees are  totally unacceptable  and  defeats the very purpose of its  constitution.

                              In this  context we feel that your ORGANISATIONS being  champions in perusing  the welfare of veteran community  might have interacted with the  concerned authorities and the GOI. But  only the  details and contents  of  one or two letters sent by  certain ORGANISATIONs  that too with no unity  in demands raised, are known to the veteran   fraternity and it   has caused  a lot of anxiety and  heartburn  amongst  this bloggers in particular and the  veteran fraternity  in general that their issues are not  being properly taken  up by the ORGANISATIONS.

                              Hence to set records straight  and  to put an end to the anxiety  and accusations  of inadequacy of  efforts from your  end  a reply  may please be  send to this blog. or to the e-mail  address of the moderator given below making your stand clear on the  subjects and the efforts taken by you if any  in the following issues.

1.    sanction of 70 percent pension to  combatants below  officer ranks.

2.    Pay band up gradation of   sergeants and  master warrant officers and equivalents.

3.    The implementation of the  improved pensionary benefits from 01012006 as the  COS committee  recommended implementation with  prospective  effect.

4.  Raising  of the minimum service pension to 7000 as the  minimum  enhanced family pension is  7000 and thereby avoiding an awkward anomaly    whereby  the family of a  pensioner stands financially  benefited by the sad demise of the   pensioner.

This is the  draft letter which will be send to all the Ex-Service organisations, all over India hence, your precious comments and valuable suggestions may be sent to the following e-mail within three days.

                            Your replies will be posted in this blog  so that there will be  more transparency  on  your stand  on the above subjects and the efforts taken by you in this regard. Therefore all the Ex-Service Organisations are requested to send their postal addresses as well as e-mail address so that letters can be addressed to them.


E mail address  of  Ex. Sgt . P.V.Raju-,

Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Comments made on Joint Memorandum given by IESL ,IESM and others to Hon'ble Prime Minister ,Defence Minister and others.

Dear Veterans,

Regards. Please find below the comments made on Joint Memorandum given by IESL ,IESM and others to Hon'ble Prime Minister ,Defence Minister and others.

Dear Veteran (Gen.) Bahri ,

Regards and thanks for the pain taken to draw the attention of the authorities towards the travails of the Veterans, specially Pre-2006. Sir, if you are net-savy, you must have noted the feelings of informed veterans among the under- privileged section ( Sub.Maj. and below).I shall not use the misfit term 'PBOR' coined by some mischief monger ( to be used for all ranks- Sub. Maj. and below ) who knew not that Sub. Majors, Subedars and Naib Subedars are, all, Junior Commissioned officers, where as Havildars and Naiks are Senior Non-commissioned Officers and it is not justified to address them as 'PBORs' i.e. Personnel Below Officer Rank.Through you, I shall, humbly, request all not to use the term 'PBORs'. We have already requested Centre Govt. to find out some other suitable and respectable word to replace this sluggish term. About the Joint Memorandum, I have the following two points to draw your attention.

1. The authors of Joint Memorandum dt. 14-10-2009, of

which you are the Convener, submitted to Hon'ble

Prime Minister and others have forgotten to stress

upon point of pension @70 % and 60 % for Sub.

Maj. and below, which the Govt. has accepted along

with Change of Pay Band from PB-3 to PB-4 for Lt

Col. It may be due the fact that enough energy was

consumed on stressing the demand of Lt. Col. and

the authors were now much tired and thought it

better to keep quite on this point in a bid to utilize

their energy for other points relating to offr. cadre. 2. Secondly, Sub. Major and their equivalents in other

two services, presently in Pay Band, PB-2 justifiably

deserve to be placed in pay Band PB-3 and Hav. and

their equivalents, presently in Pay Band , PB-1 along

with Class IV employees to be placed in Pay Band,

PB-2 as their civilian counter-parts drawing same, or

even less, pay in 5th CPC have been placed in upper

Pay Bands.

Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.


Indian Ex-Services League, Punjab & Chadigarh


Monday, October 26, 2009


Eventhough the article on pay band change of SNCOs of IAF  dealt with the subject in length  supported by concrete arguments and reasons , I   personally feel that  the  issue needs to be  examined in the light of  the recommendations  and subsequent  approval of  the GOI. The GOI has added insult to injury by endorsing the recommendation  of the pay commission in this regard.

                                                          There is no doubt that the tempers are running high among the SNCOs as a class over the issue .But most of them are unable to express or convey their protest  in the matter as they are busy engaged in the prime task of  meeting the ends together  with the small pensions they earn.The predicament  of the serving  ones  are  well known.

                                                            The sixth pay commission  has kept  all the scales  upto S8 OF THE 5 th pay commission in PB-1. Scale S9 was kept in  PB-2 .It can be seen that   the starting pay of  S8-was  4500-125-7000.  So  it can be seen that any  scale   which  had a starting pay more than 4500 in the 5 th pay commission  qualifies to be placed in the   pb-2. But to the gross  disadvantage  x group sergeants of IAF  who  had a  starting basic pay  of 5000 as per 5th pay commission is  placed in pay band -1.The  GOI owes an explanation to  the x group sergeants  regarding the reason and logic behind this  injustice  perpetuated against them  which amounts to utter discrimination to the disadvantage of combatant soldiers when compared to  civilian employees.
                                                     Let us approach this PB issue  through another angle. The starting basic pay of x group sergeants are 5000, which when multiplied by 1.86  [the pay commission  factor] gives 9300. It can be seen that the starting pay of pay band -2 is also  9300. Now , how can the denial of the eligible pay band 2 to x group sergeants be  justified.

Needless to add the  sergeant promotion is limited by  the availabilty of  vacancies and is a selection post with  rigorous selection standards  determined by  examination and  annual assesments.
                                                        By following the well established convention of  taking a  beneficial view and upgrading the salaries    to avoid anomalies  when  pay scales are determined  the  GOI   should upgrade the pay band of all  sergeants to PB_2.It is their  entitlement with respect to their qualification, nature of job and skills involved.The accommodation  of sergeants in SNCOs mess where they hold important  appointments as property member etc reveals their special status . This  will avoid further  controversies and  anomalies by  upgrading only  x group sergeants


Tuesday, October 20, 2009


Every pay commission creates anomalies which are dutifully rectified by the government sooner or later.But the sixth pay commision has created an irony instead of an anomaly. The matter refered to is that of assigning the sergeants of the Indian Air Force to pay band -1. It is an irony because it categorises the guard commander and the guard , the instructor and the trainee, the leader of a technical team and its members, all into one goup . The reason or logic behind this unjustifiable action is still not known.

The sergeants from technical trades are normaly equated to diploma holders and most of them have 10 years of service to their credit. The non technical tardesmen have specialised knowledge in their respective fields with more than 12 years of service. While all other similarly placed employees in the civil side are palced in the pb-2 the combatant sergeant is kept in the pb-1, which is a blatant violation and denial of natural justice to the prominent and vital rank of the Air force.

It will be interesting to have a closer look at this sergeant rank which is placed in the lowest pay band by the 6 pay commission. Earlier the sgts and flight sergeants were called SNCOs and were the backbones of the air force as far as jobs both technical and non technical were concerned.They enjoyed an element of respect from their seniors and the juniors looked upon them as their role models in Air Force. But in the long run the flight sergeants got redesignated and became junior warrant officers. But the sergeants continued to be known as SNCOs with the same clout and status.

The special status of the sergeants can be seen from the fact that they continue to be accomodated in SNCOs mess along with warranted ranks unlike in the army where havildars are not accomodated in the JCO mess.

Natural justice demands that they be placed in the PB-2 and their status restored. This demand becomes all the more relevant when others with even less basic pay as per 5 th pay commission [like master craftsmen etc] are assigned to PB -2. The discontent and feeling of being let down among the SNCOs are aroused by the fact that the top brass and the EX Service ORG. has not taken any meaningful step in this regard.

This is an earnest appeal by an EX SNCO URGING PAY BAND UPGRADATION OF SERGEANTS of the IAF and not an eulogy or a post mortem of the lost status of SNCOs with respect to PAY BAND.

Friday, October 16, 2009


Pension Table @ 50% Based on COS report
                                              Length of service in years
Rank     15     16     17     18     19      20      21       22       23       24       25

MWO  8234 8646 9057 9469 9881 10292 10704 11116 11528 11939 12351

WO     7892 8286 8681 9075 9470  9864  10259 10654 11048 11443 11837

JWO   6976 7324 7673 8022 8371  8719   9068   9417   9766   10115 10463

Sgt      5820 6097 6374 6651 6928  7205   7482   7759   8037    8314   8314

Cpl     5392 5626 5861 6095 6329  6564   6798   7033   7033    7033   7033

LAC   5515 5736 5957 6177 6398  6618   6618   6618   6618    6618   6618

AC     4635 4820 5005 5191 5376  5562   5562   5562   5562    5562    5562


MWO 7443 7816 8188 8560 8932 9304 9676 10049 10421 10793 11165

WO    7253 7616 7978 8341 8704  9066 9429 9792  10154  10517 10880

JWO  6467 6790 7113 7437 7760   8083 8407  8730  9054   9377    9700

Sgt     4838 5069 5299 5530 5760   5991  6221 6451   6682   6912   6912

Cpl    4742  4948 5154 5360 5567  5773   5979 6185   6185  6185    6185

LAC  4721  4910 5099 5287 5476 5665   5665  5665   5665  5665    5665

AC    3805  3957 4109 4262 4414 4566   4566  4566   4566  4566    4566

Pension table @ 70% Based on COS Report

MWO  X  11528 12104 12680 13257 13833 14409 14986 15562 16139 16715 17291

WO     X  11048 11601 12153 12705 13258 13810 13810 14915 15467 16020 16572

JWO    X  9766  10254 10742 11231 11719 12207 12207 13184 13672 14160 14649

Sgt       X  8147   8535   8923   9311   9699   10087 10475 10863 11251 11639 11639

Cpl      X  7548   7877    8205   8533   8861   9189   9518   9846  9846    9846    9846

LAC    X  7721   8030    8339   8648   8957   9266   9266   9266  9266    9266   9266

AC     X   6489   6748    7008    7267   7527   7786   7786   7786  7786   7786   7786

MWO Y  10421 10942 11463 11984 12505 13026 13547 14068 14589 15110 15631

WO    Y   10154 10662 11170 11677 12185 12693 12693 13708 14216 14724 15231

JWO  Y   9506    9959  10412 10864 11317  11770 11317 12222 12675 13128 13580

Sgt     Y   7419    7742   8064   8387   8709   9032   8709   9032    9354   9677   9677

Cpl     Y  7216     7504   7793   8082  8370    8659  8370   8659    8659    8659   8659

LAC  Y  6609     6874   7138    7402  7667    7931   7931   7931   7931    7931   7931

AC   Y    5327    5540   5753    5966  6179    6392    6392  6392   6392    6392   6392

The above tables are based on the folowing:
1.Max. of V pay scale of each rank X 1.86+ Xgp pay + gp+msp/50% or 70%.
2.Weightage @ 6,8,10 years subject to max. 30 years.
3.No Classification allowance is taken into consideration.
4. GP of AC/LAC=2000, CPL= 2400, SGT=2800, JWO=4200, WO=4600 & MWO=4800
5. The difference between X Gp CPL & LAC is only Rs.675 whereas, the difference due to 2 years extra weightage is Rs. 882/- therefore, the weightage of 10 years given to LAC is making the difference.
(with this I hope the doubt of some people expressed on this blog cleared)

Air Force Pay Scales V Pay Commission
 MWO                          WO               JWO                       SGT                CPL                 LAC         AC

Group X
7400-200-10200,6750-190-9700,5770-140-8290,5000-100-6500,4150-70-5200,4025-60-4925, 3675

Group Y
6750-200-9550, 6600-170-9320,5620-140-8140, 320-85-5595,  3900-70-4950,  3650-60-4550, 3250

Group Z
6600-200-9400, 6180-155-8650, 5200-125-7450,3775-85-5050, 3200-70-4250, 3080-60-3980, 3050

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Welcome all new commers

A hearty welcome to Jagan, Viyay Verma & Trishul. Kindly use this blog extensively with meaningful and effective discusssions so that the MOD should comedown to our expectations. Also I request all to give their e-mail address so that we can share the information each other which we can not share on this blog. You are also welcome to send any useful & important material to be posted on this blog. JN Chritian & Babu are also part of this blog.  

Monday, October 5, 2009

Some good news for Veterans

"Pay arrears before Diwali", Antony’s gift to the Armed Forces

The Defence Minister, Shri A K Antony lighting the lamp to inaugurate the Defence Accounts Day 2009 function, in New Delhi on October 01, 2009. The Controller General of Defence Accounts, Smt Bulbul Ghosh and the Secretary (Defence Finance), Smt Indu Liberhan are also seen. Photo no CNR- 27862

Thursday, October 01, 2009
18:47 IST
The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony has stressed that all men in the Armed Forces must get all their pay arrears relating to the Sixth Central Pay Commission well in time before Diwali. Addressing the Defence Accounts Day function here today, Shri Antony commended the officials of the Controller General of Defence Accounts for adopting computerisation and speeding-up the salary computation systems.

“One of the major challenges before you all is to render prompt, efficient and hassle free pensionary services to nearly 2 million Ex-servicemen and other retired Defence Personnel”, Shri Antony said. The Defence Minister called upon the Defence Accounts officials to implement optimally the austerity measures announced recently by the Government. “The Prime Minister has underlined the importance of service delivery mechanisms”, he added. Samir/DM/PK/RAJ
“Pay arrears before Diwali”, Antony’s gift to the Armed Forces

IESL/13/2009           Dt. 5 Oct.2009

To : Sh. A.K.Antony,
Minister for Defence ,
Govt of India,
South Block, Sena Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 011.

Sub: Post –Sixth CPC Demands of Veterans.

Respected Sir,

The veterans, all over India, were, in fact, highly elated on your announcement in regard to the payment of all arrears, in respect of sixth CPC to Veterans(ex-servicemen) before Diwali.

This organization takes liberty to remind, your good-self, that the orders regarding your Government's much publicized announcement, One Rank One Pension for PBORs (Veterans below the Commissioned Ranks) has not been issued yet. As such, how can they expect their arrears of One Rank One Pension before Diwali?

Is it a clerical delay or otherwise ? But, Sir, it will not be out of place mention that if the same is delayed, credit for doing good things will be taken by your adversaries. The Veterans are thinking to celebrate BLACK DIWALI if they are not given One Rank One Pension before Diwali.

Now it is up to your what it wants to do.

But we, on our part, would wish to remind you to do the needful at the earliest and garner the well wishes from the veterans for your government.

With a hope for an early action,

( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)

Copy to; S.Harbans Singh ,Director, Pesion, Deptt. of
SainikWelfare, Ministry of Defence.Govt
of India, Sena Bhawan, New Delhi for
information, please.
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)

Source: IESM

Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Fight against use of 'PBORs'

As rightly said by Vet. Prabhujyot Singh President of IESL & Vet. Gavini the time has come to raise a voice against use of a word PBORs. Like submitting memorandam by Vet. Prabhujyot Singh all the Ex-Servicemen  organisations must send their Memorandom to MOD on this issue. In all Central Govt. organisations Group'D' staff are now called Group'D' Officers. As Ex-Sgt.Babu comented on Sgt.Gavini's Blog, We the SNCOs,NCOs etc. are maintaning the most Sophisticated  Aircraft & Equipment in the World. The ranks have to be respected. We will hilight this issue in all possible way. join the movement...   

Here comes a true soldier, read the press conf. by Vet.Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal

Punjab Newsline More in News... Ex-Servicemen Seeks Better deal for Havildars and Sub-Majors

Ex-Servicemen Seeks Better deal for Havildars and Sub-Majors

PATIALA: Indian Ex-Services League, Punjab & Chandigarh has sought a better deal for Havildars and Sub Majors from the Centre Govt.

Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal, president of league in his memorandum faxed to Defence Minister, A.K. Antony, has asked the govt. to change the Pay-Band for Havildars and equivalent ranks from PB-I to PB-II and for Sub. Majors and equivalent ranks from PB-II to PB-III since the Sixth Pay Commission have not done justice with these ranks.

League stressed upon the govt. that the soldiers of the rank of Havildar form the real back-bone of Defence Forces and Sub. Major acts as a Chief executor of the strategy in the war. These two ranks have been virtually crushed by the partial recommendations of Sixth Central Pay Commission and further faulty implementation of the recommendations regarding their pay scales. The Havildars have been virtually equated to class-IV civilian such as Peons, Chowkidars, Mali and Dhobi etc. in respect of pay.

League has further asked the Minister to release immediately the orders for promised ONE RANK ONE PENSION for Junior Commissioned Officers, Senior Non-Commissioned Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and other ranks which was announced by Finance Minister in Union Budget on 6 July 2009, and then by the Minister him self in the Parliament and finally by Prime Minister on Independence Day but the order regarding the same has not not been issued so far.

League has further demanded two pensions for the widows of ex-servicemen who drew two pensions during their life time. Because of early compulsory retirement, most of the soldiers have to seek employment in civil deptts. to compensate their meager pension which they draw by virtue of their service in the Defence Forces. Such veterans draw two pensions after their retirement from civil deptts. but their widows are not entitled for second pension as per the present pension policy of the govt.

Along with this, League has gone further to demand befitting alternate re-employment for the soldiers up to the age of 60 years like their civilian counter parts since about 90% among the soldiers are compulsory retired prior to their superannuation to keep the forces young.

League has vehemently stressed upon the govt. to fulfill the demands of veterans at the earliest lest they may come on the roads like civilian counter parts and the govt. will be in a critical position to handle that volcanic situation.

Last but not the least, the league has forcefully demanded of the govt. not to use the term PBORs for Junior Commissioned Officers, Senior Non-Commissioned Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and other ranks as they feel much humiliated by being referred as such.

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

buliding bridge with missing spans--- the COS style for jawans.

 The   GOI appointed a committe e of secretaries  to   look into and rectify the   anomalies and  complaints   which created a lot of hue and cry by the   defence pensionerswhuich was dutifully  highlited by the media.  The most important  complaint  was regarding the  wide gap that existed between the pre- and post  2006  pensioers'.Tthe other  major    demand was to   equalise the pension  of all  retirees  who were given  pension  as per thre different  tables. The sixth pay commission  created one more class of pensioners raising the number of  classes of pensiners to four.

 The most importanrt and long standing demand  was that of OROP  WHICH WAS REJECTED DOWNRIGHT  by the COS   and also made a categorical  reference that any attempt to usher in  OROP is to be opposed tooth and nail AND QUOTED, SC JUDGEMENTS   selectively and recommendations of the law and  finance ministries   to that effect.In the  process of quoting  it turned a blind eyeto the recommendations of the parliamentary committees, recent judgements of the SC favouring  OROP [major gen. case]  and  the reference made by her ex. the prsident in the floor of the house  and  the emtional  act of the  sodiers in returning their hard earned and precious  service medals.
However the  committee after  deliberations came to the conclusion  that there should only be two categories of pensioners, that is  pre 6 pay commision and post 6 pay commission. so far so good.
 Thecommittee also felt that the gap between these two categories of pensioners  are to be bridged  towards the cause of  natural justice. A very resonable  conclusion  by all  standards.but the committee  was   cruel   enough to call  this recommendation to meet the ends of justice a  new CONCESSION   and  stated that the effective date of implementation  will  be    prospective in nature. what a wonderful  sense of reasoning.THE COMMITTEE AGREeS THAT 1 THE GAP IS CREATED BY THE 6 PAY COMMISSION SINCE 01012006,2 THE GAP IS TO BE BRIDGED TO MEET THE ENDS OF NATURAL JUSTICE.  but the commission recommends tobuild this bridge for the cause of  natural justice to the  demands of the jawans   with   SPANS MISSING. a wonderfull brdge with spans missing from 10101206 to the date  of  theimplemantation. so much for  the  demands of the JAWANS.
 The most  astonishing fact is that  exservice organisations  both recognised and  unrecognised   have conviniently  ignored the  case of this MISSING  SPAN  IN THIS PROMISED BRIDGE. this mising span is  sure to deprieve the jawans of the arrears  for about 44 months   at the rate of 1900 to 1200 rupees per month. hence this blog  seeks the attention of all concerned   who can be of any help to  solve thecase of  this missing span.

Monday, September 21, 2009

Ex-Sergeants have been deprived

Its time for all the Ex-SNCOs of the Air force especially Ex-Sergeants who have been deprived of their legitimate pension in the VI pay commission. Please respond and share your views.



Letter to Hon'ble Prime Minister by Hon'ble M.P.


Ex-Servicemen return Medals