This is the email sent by one of our regular member
Why govt is DARED OT TAKE SUCH DRASTIC DECISION
AGAINST DISABLE SOLDERS,BECAUSE,EVER BEGGAR IS JEALOUS ABOUT OTHER
BEGGAR, HE NEVER THINKS ABOUT TATA OR BIRLA. i.e. every solider is
having problem wih NK every NK has problem with Havildar, ever havildar
has problem with N/Sub and so on upto Generals and generals has problem
with under secretary and so on.
Respected sir, to resolve all this problems, ALL
EXSM to be united and spend some money to enter legal battle and win
the case, if all ESM join the movement and spend some money i.e.
1200000XSM X Rs 1000/= is equal to Rs1200000000/= what is the amount?
no decision will go against EXSM. But all EXSM want to eat fruit
without doing anything, WHICH IS NOT ON, if EXSM are not intrested in
their benifit, they should not cry on blog.
DEPTT OF EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE (MINISTRY OF DEFENCE)
DEPTT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES (MINISTRY OF FINANCE)
NOTICE TO ALL EX-SERVICEMEN PENSIONERS
pension of pre 1-1-2006 ex-servicemen in implementation of the recent
recommendations of the 6th CPC has to be revised as per MOD’s letter
dated 11-11-2008 which is also available on the website
www.cgda.nic.in, www.pcdapension.nic.in and www.mod.nic.in
IV to MOD’s aforementioned letter which has 16 columns is required to
be completed by all Pension Disbursing Authorities (PDAs) and given to
the pensioners. In Column 12 of the Annexure IV details of of
computation of revised pension/ family pension are to be indicated
while in Column 13 arrears of pension/ family pension are to be
mentioned by the Banks.
Deptt of Financial Services have issued
clear instructions to the Chief Executives pf all public sector banks
to complete the task of revision of pension expeditiously and supply
Annexure-IV duly filled in to the Ex-serviceman pensioners vide their
letter F. no. 2/2/2008-BO.II dated 25th September 2009 and F. No.
2/2/2008-BO.II dated 15th December 2009.
ex-servicemen pensioners should obtain a copy of Annexure IV from the
respective Pension Disbursing banks. The concerned Banks are also
requested to supply Annexure IV duly completed to all ESM pensioners so
that correctness of entitlement of pension can be ascertained by them.
notice is being issued by the department of Financial Srvices (Ministry
of Finance) and the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare (Ministry of
Defence) in public interest.
The first meeting of the National Anomaly Committee was held on 12th December, 2009. Secretary (Personnel) chaired the meeting.On behalf of the Confederation, Com. S.K. Vyas, President and Com. K.K.N. Kutty Secretary General attended and participated in the discussion.In
the opening remark, Com. Umraomal Purohit drew the attention of the
Chairman of the non-functioning of the Departmental Councils in various
departments and the consequent non setting up of Departmental Anomaly
Committees.He also raised the issue of the order of the DOPT defining the term Anomaly, which was at variance with the one given in 1997.He
recalled the discussion he had with the official side in the matter
when it was agreed that the definition of the term would be the same as
was in the order of 1997.Responding to the remarks made
by the Staff Side Secretary, the Chairman said that his office would
take steps to ensure the functioning of the JCM at all levels and informed the meeting that the National Council of the JCM would meet on 16th January, 2009 and the notice therefore has already been issued.On
the question of anomaly, it was informed by the Chairman, that all
efforts would be taken to address all questions of anomaly and resolve
them.The official side clarified that all questions of disparity in relativities would also be addressed except on those on which the 6th CPC has gone into and taken decision enumerating reasons.The
Chairman asked the staff Side to bring to the notice of the DOPT/DOE of
all those items which stand rejected by the concerned Departmental
Anomaly Committees taking shelter under the extant definition.
We now reproduce the items which were discussed and the decisions arrived on each of them.
The item Nos. 1 to 4 and 5(iii)(iv) and 7 were grouped together and discussed as they were identical in content.For the sake of convenience, we reproduce item No. 3 which covers all the above mentioned items.
Fixation of Pay in Revised Pay Scale
The VI CPC in para 2.2.19 (vii) has indicated that where prerevised pay
scales have been merged it has been done by extending the existing
minimum prescribed for the highest pay scale with which the other
scales are being merged. Accordingly it has also been stipulated in
7(1) (A) of the CCS (Revised pay) Rules, 2008 that if the minimum of
the Revised pay Band / pay Scale is more that what is determined by
multiplying the existing basic pay as on 1.1.2006 by a factor of 1.86
and rounding of the resultant figure to the next multiple of 10, the
pay shall be fixed at the minimum of the revised pay Band / pay Scale.
Note 2B below Rule 7, ibid and illustration 4B given in the Explanatory
Memorandum to the Revised pay Rule apply to cases of merger of pay
Scales.Note 2 B states that pay in the revised Pay Bands
will be fixed in the manner prescribed in accordance with Clause (A)
(i) And clause (A) (ii) of Rule 7. In illustration 4B a case of an
employee in the pre revised pay scale Rs.5000-8000 drawing Rs.5600 as
on 1.1.2006 in the pay scale of 6500-10500 has been indicated with
which the pay scale of Rs.5000-8000 stands merged.
Taking these into account
the pay in the Pay Band in the case of all employees in the Pay Scales
of Rs.5000-8000 and Rs.5500-9000 has to be fixed at Rs. 6500 multiplied
by 1.86 i.e. Rs.12090. The fixation tables for pay scales 5000-8000 and
5500-9000may therefore be modified fixing the pay in the pay band at
Rs.12090 wherever it is less than that amount.
Illustration 4B in the explanatory memorandum to the Revised Pay Rules 2008 may be modified as under:-
Existing Scale of Pay5000-8000
Pay Band PB-29300-34800
Merged with Pay Scale 6500-10500
Existing Basic Pay as on 1.1.06 Rs.5600
Pay in the PB-2Rs.5600 X 1.86 = 10420As per Clause (A) (i) of Rule 7(i) of Revised Pay rules 2008
Pay in the PB-2Rs.6500- X 1.86 = 12090As per Clause (A) (ii) of Rule 7 (i) of Revised Pay Rules 2008
Grade Pay Rs.4200
Revised Basic PayRs.16290
The Staff Side pointed out that what has been recommended by the 6th
CPC in Para 2.2.19(vii_ in respect of fixation of minimum pay in the
Pay band for merged pay scales had not been taken into account while
computing the pay band and the table.After some discussion, the official side stated to have a re-look into the matter.
Item No. 5(i)
On Revised Pay Rules. 2008
has been mentioned under sub rule 4 thereof that the option once
exercised shall be final and should be exercised within three months
from the date
of notification of the rule vide Sub rule I thereof. Since it is very
difficult to comprehend and assess the implication of such option, we
propose that the first option exercised within three months may not be
treated as final and the employees be permitted to revise the option
within six month of the date of exercising the first option.
The official side has agreed to allow another option.The
Side Side also pointed out during the discussion that the option
exercised by the officials under F.R. 22(I)(A(1) on promotion has been
restricted to only first promotion, which appears to be unreasonable.The official side has agreed to examine whether the above option can be allowed to cover all promotions.
Item No. 5(ii)
Special allowance and qualification pay which are taken for fixation
purposes on promotion should be doubled with effect from 1.1.2006 and
not from 1.9.2008 as it cannot be construed to be an allowance. If this
is not done, senior employees will suffer loss in emoluments, in case
of persons who are promoted during the period between 1.1.2006 and
It was pointed out that the item relating to 5th CPC is still pending at the Standing Committee.The Official Side stated that the item would be covered when a decision is taken on the item relating to 5th CPC.
Item No. 5(vi)
(vi) Rule 9. Date of next increment
is seen after going through the stipulation in the above rules that a
person whose increment falls on 1.1.2006 will get the increment on
1.1.2006 in the pre revised pay scale and will get the next increment
in the revised pay structure on 1.7.2006 i.e. on expiry of six months.
Similarly those, whose next increment is between 1st July, 2006 and 1st
December, 2006 would also be granted next increment in the revised pay
structure on 1.7.2006. On the other hand, the persons whose increment
dates are between 1st Feb. 2006 and 1st June 2006
have to wait for more than 12 months to get the next increment on
1.7.2006. This is quite anomalous. In the case of those who retire
during the period between 1st Feb. and 30th June,
they will suffer a loss of one increment perpetually thus affecting
their pension. It is, therefore proposed that the persons whose
increment falls between 1st February and 1st June, 2006 may be given one increment on 1.1.2006 as a one time measure.
The official side agreed to issue orders to cover those in service between 1.1.2006 and 1.7.2006 as a one time measure.The
Staff Side however, pointed out that they have made the suggestion for
a one time measure on the specific understanding that Rule 9 of the
Revised Pay Rules 2008 has no applicable in the fixation of increment
date in future as in those cases, the Fundamental Rules will have the
application.The Official side was of the opinion that the Revised Pay Rules will override the provisions of the Fundamental Rules.The Staff Side then contended that the increment of an official cannot be postponed except on award of a penalty afterinitiation
of the disciplinary proceedings. The official side after some
discussion agreed to reconsider the issue in the light of the
contention made by the Staff Side.
(vii).Tax deduction from salary:
Spread over of the arrears of salary is permissible under section 89 (a) of the I.T. Act.No
tax will thus become payable by Group D employees on account of receipt
of arrears eventually. Therefore, executive instructions may be issued
not to deduct any tax from the arrears payment pertaining to the Group
D employees. In respect of others, they may be allowed to exercise
option to tax the arrears either on receipt basis or accrual basis.
Since the arrears have all been paid after deduction of tax, this item was not pressed.
Item No. 5(vii)Temporary Status Casual Labourers
per existing scheme the employees who are afforded temporary status are
paid the wages computed with reference to the minimum of the
corresponding scale of pay of regular employees. In the case of Group D
temporary status employees, it will become necessary that they are
afforded the requisite training if they are non- matriculates.
Orders would be issued in the case of temporary status employees.In
the case of those who died /retired between 1.1.06 and 1.9.2008 grant
of grade pay of Rs. 1800 without training was raised by the Staff Side.It was agreed that the Govt. would take a decision in their casefavorably.
Item No. 6.
Benefit on promotion.
is an accepted proposition that an employee when promoted to a higher
post involving higher responsibility should get a suitable raise in his
salary. It was on this consideration that FR 22-C was framed whereby
the promotee was first granted an increment in the lower Pay Scale and
then fixed at the appropriate (next) stage in the higher grade.
the time of V CPC it was agreed that minimum increase in salary on
promotion shall not be less then Rs.100/- There are certain grades in
which, on promotion, a hike of Rs.650/- is being allowed with reference
to pre-revised pay scale.
these circumstances grant of only one increment in the lower Pay Band /
Pay scale and difference in grade pay, if there be any, being granted
on promotion is certainly inadequate. We therefore propose that minimum
benefit on promotion should not be less than 10% of the Pay+Grade Pay
of the feeder post.
The official side stated that the above item was not covered under the definition of anomaly.However, after some discussion, it was agreed that the official side would further discuss the issue outside the forum of the Anomaly Committee.
Item No. 7.
Fixation of pay on promotion.
minimum Entry pay with Grade Pay in the revised pay structure for
direct recruits appointed on or after 1.1.2006 has been specific vide
first Schedule, Part –A, Section II of the Gazette Notification of the
Govt. of India, Ministry of Finance No. G.S.R. 622 (E) dated 29.8.2008.
On promotion, the pay of the promotees should not be less than the direct recruits.
In VI CPC structure there is no pay scale and new concept of grade pay has been inducted, which should determine the status.As such the following provisions need to be inserted below clarification 2.'The method of Fixation of Pay on promotion on or after 1.1.2006.
promotion to the higher grade pay of an employee should be fixed
appropriately and in any case it should not be less than the entry Pay
in the revised pay structure for direct recruits appointed on of after
1.1.2006 for the post." further, on promotion to the next higher grade
pay an employee should be fixed by adding 10% of pay, plus the grade
pay as demanded by NC/JCM in its memorandum submitted to the Chairman,
NC/JCM/Cabinet secretary on 8.4.2008.
The Official Side agreed to issue enabling orders in the matter.
Item No. 8.
Refixation of pension/family pension.
9 of the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension's O.M.
No. F.No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 1.9.2008 states as under:-
consolidated pension / family pension as worked out in accordance with
provisions of para 4.1 above shall be treated as final basic pension
with effect from 1.1.2006 and shall qualify for grant of Dearness
Relief sanctioned thereafter.".
This has left uncovered the provision made in para 4.2 of the same OM, which lays down as under:-
fixation of pension will be subject to the provision that the revised
pension in no case, shall be lower than fifty present of the minimum of
the pay in the pay band plus the grade pay corresponding to the
pre-revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired. In the case
of HAG + and above scales, this will be fifty percent of the minimum of
the revised pay scale."
Since refixation of pension has been allowed both under paras 4.1 and 4.2, they should both he covered in para 9 of the OM.It is requested that para 9 of the said OM may be revised including both paras 4.1 and 4.2 thereof.
Orders have been issued vide O.M.dated 12th and 14th September, 2009
Item. No. 9.
Anomaly in pension for Government Servants who retired/Died in harness between 1.1.2006 and 1.9. 2006
Sixth Central Pay Commission lays down inter-alia that once an employee
renders the minimum pensionable service of 20 years, pension should be
paid at 50% of the average emoluments received during the past 10
months or the pay last down, whichever is more beneficial to the
As per the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pension O.M. F.No. 38/37/08-P&P(W)(A) dated 2nd September 2008, these orders shall come into force with effect from the date of issue of this OM, namely 2nd
September 2008 and shall be, applicable to all Government Servants
becoming entitled to pension after rendering the minimum qualifying
service of 20 years or on completion of 10 years qualifying service in
accordance with rule 49(2) of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972.
the Govt. servants who have retired on or after 1.1.2006 but before the
date of issue of this OM (2.9.2008) have been debarred from this
benefit. They will be governed by the rules/ orders which were in force
immediately before coming into effect of these orders. In other words
their pension will be calculated on average emoluments received during
the last 10 months and not on the actual pay last drawn. It is
requested that this discrimination should be removed.
Orders are under issue.The Staff Side raised the inordinate delay in fixing the revised pension and disbursement of arrears to pensioners.The official side assured to monitor the payment of arrears to pensioners.The
refusal on the part of many banks to issue the due and drawn statement
even on requisition was also brought to the notice of the Chairman.The Director (Pension) assured that suitable instructions would be issued in this regard to all Banks.
Commutation of pension.
minimum period of service for eligibility for pension is 10 years. For
appointment to Government Service the minimum age is 18 years. In view
of this, if a person is appointed at the age of 18 years he cannot
become eligible for pension unless he has served for a period of at
least 10 years and attained the age of 28 years i.e. when his birthday
falls in the 29th years.
table adopted a per the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and
Pension's OM No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 2.9.2008 shows the minimum
age of next birthday after retirement as 20 which is not understood. It
is requested that suitable amendment to the table referred to may be
The item was withdrawn by the Staff Side.
Item No.11 to 14. These items were deferred for discussion at the next meeting.
Parity in pension of all pre 1996 retirees with those who retired on or after 1.1.2006
Government have already accepted in principle that there shall be
parity in pension amongst pensioners irrespective of the date from
which they had retired.
pension of all pre 1986 retirees was revised with effect from 1.1.96 by
first determining the notional pay which would have been fixed as on
1.1.86 (treating as if the employees were in service on that date) and
then the Notional Pension was updated by applying the same fitment
formula which was applied to serving employees.
therefore demanded that the notional pay of all pre 1996 retirees may
be fixed as on 1.1.96 in terms of Revised Pay Rules, 1996 and the
notional pension as on 1.1.96 may be revised w.e.f. 1.1.06 by applying
the same fitment formula which is applied in the case of serving
employees i.e. by multiplying the notional pension as on 1.1.96 by 1.86
+ the Grade Pay of the Pay Scale (V CPC) from which they would have
revision of pension has been done by applying the formula of Basic
Pension as on 1.1.96 + Dearness Pension (50% of Basic Pension) +
Dearness Relief on Basic Pension + Dearness Pension+40% of Basic
is not the same that has been granted to serving employees. In whose
case the Grade Pay which is the fitment benefit is 40% of the maximum
of the Pre-revised Pay Scale.
such the Pensioners should also be granted 50% the of Grade Pay of the
Pay Scale from which they had retired by way of fitment benefit and not
40% of Basic Pension.
The Staff Side pointed out that the 6th
CPC in order to maintain the existing modified parity between the
present and future retirees had indicated that it would be necessary to
allow the same fitment benefit as is being recommended for the existing
Government employees vide para 5.1.47 in page 338.However,
the Commission recommended that all past pensioners should be allowed
fitment benefit equal to 40% of the basic pension. The statement and
the recommendation made to give effect to the statement was at variance
giving rise to anomaly and disparity in pension entitlement between the
past pensioners and the future pensioners.After detailed discussion, the official side agreed to consider the issue once again.
the conclusion of the meeting, the Staff Side took up the matter
concerning non representation of Postal Federations in the National
Council as some members of a Federation which could not muster even 5%
membership had been approaching one court or the other in a bid to
delay the verification process and consequent recognition of the
Associations and Federations in the Postal Department.As it would be a never ending process,the
denial for the unions who had mustered more than 75% of the membership
representation in the National Council would be a miscarriage of
justice, the Staff Side added..The Director (SR) of the
Postal Department, who had represented the Postal Department in the
official side agreed with the contention of the Staff Side and reported
to the Chairman, that they had granted adhoc recognition to the Unions
who had mustered the requisite membership and the Department Council
had also been convened and met on adhoc basic.The
question of granting of representation to the representatives of the
Staff in the National Council had been referred to the Department of
Personnel and their advice in the matter was being solicited.The Chairman assured the Staff Side to look into the matter and take appropriate decision soon.
denial of revised higher Grade Pay to Master Craftsmen of Workshops in
MMS in the Postal Department, while affording the same to those in
Railways and Defence was also raised by the Staff Side.The
Department of Expenditure pointed out that they had not received any
reference from the Postal Department in this matter, whereas the
official side representative of the Postal Department stated that they
had referred this matter to them earlier.After some
discussion, it was agreed that the Department of Expenditure and the
Postal Department would sort out this matter expeditiously.
The information given below is only openion. Please dont take it for authenticated one. As per the figures available from Labour Bureau, Government of India (http://labourbureau.nic.in/indtab.html)
it can be assumed that minimum of 8% DA hike can be assumed from
January 2010, totaling 35% from current 27%. This is calculated
assuming that the All India Consumer Price Index (AICPI) remains
unchanged for November and December, which are yet to be announced.
These figures for November and December 2009 will be announced on 31
Dec 2009 and 29 Jan 2010 respectively. Keeping in view of the rapidly
rising prices, the figures are expected to increase further
This letter is written as per the collective decision of the members of a blog named http://www.ex-sergeant.blogspot.com.we are a group of veterans who regularly interact and exchange ideas on matters of common benefit and interest to the veteran fraternity.
We are aware that your ORGANISATION is engaged in the task of ensuring the welfare and wellbeing of the veterans and interact and intervene in the subject with the concerned authorities including GOI. Your contributions towards this noble cause deserves special mention and your services will surely be cherished by the veteran fraternity.
You might be aware of the fact that the pensionary benefits extended to the combatants other than officers as per the 6CPC is totally disappointing and the pension tables notified are full of anomalies and inconsistencies .The GOI constituted two committees to look into the matter and the committees submitted their reports.
But improvements in the pensionary benefits are still awaited and certain recommendations of the committees are totally unacceptable and defeats the very purpose of its constitution.
In this context we feel that your ORGANISATIONS being champions in perusing the welfare of veteran community might have interacted with the concerned authorities and the GOI. But only the details and contents of one or two letters sent by certain ORGANISATIONs that too with no unity in demands raised, are known to the veteran fraternity and it has caused a lot of anxiety and heartburn amongst this bloggers in particular and the veteran fraternity in general that their issues are not being properly taken up by the ORGANISATIONS.
Hence to set records straight and to put an end to the anxiety and accusations of inadequacy of efforts from your end a reply may please be send to this blog. or to the e-mail address of the moderator given below making your stand clear on the subjects and the efforts taken by you if any in the following issues.
1. sanction of 70 percent pension to combatants below officer ranks.
2. Pay band up gradation of sergeants and master warrant officers and equivalents.
3. The implementation of the improved pensionary benefits from 01012006 as the COS committee recommended implementation with prospective effect.
4. Raising of the minimum service pension to 7000 as the minimum enhanced family pension is 7000 and thereby avoiding an awkward anomaly whereby the family of a pensioner stands financially benefited by the sad demise of the pensioner.
This is the draft letter which will be send to all the Ex-Service organisations, all over India hence, your precious comments and valuable suggestions may be sent to the following e-mail within three days.
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addressed to them.
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Regards. Please find below the comments made on Joint Memorandum given by IESL ,IESM and others to Hon'ble Prime Minister ,Defence Minister and others.
Dear Veteran (Gen.) Bahri ,
Regards and thanks for the pain taken to draw the attention of the authorities towards the travails of the Veterans, specially Pre-2006. Sir, if you are net-savy, you must have noted the feelings of informed veterans among the under- privileged section ( Sub.Maj. and below).I shall not use the misfit term 'PBOR' coined by some mischief monger ( to be used for all ranks- Sub. Maj. and below ) who knew not that Sub. Majors, Subedars and Naib Subedars are, all, Junior Commissioned officers, where as Havildars and Naiks are Senior Non-commissioned Officers and it is not justified to address them as 'PBORs' i.e. Personnel Below Officer Rank.Through you, I shall, humbly, request all not to use the term 'PBORs'. We have already requested Centre Govt. to find out some other suitable and respectable word to replace this sluggish term. About the Joint Memorandum, I have the following two points to draw your attention.
1. The authors of Joint Memorandum dt. 14-10-2009, of
which you are the Convener, submitted to Hon'ble
Prime Minister and others have forgotten to stress
upon point of pension @70 % and 60 % for Sub.
Maj. and below, which the Govt. has accepted along
with Change of Pay Band from PB-3 to PB-4 for Lt
Col. It may be due the fact that enough energy was
consumed on stressing the demand of Lt. Col. and
the authors were now much tired and thought it
better to keep quite on this point in a bid to utilize
their energy for other points relating to offr. cadre. 2. Secondly, Sub. Major and their equivalents in other
two services, presently in Pay Band, PB-2 justifiably
deserve to be placed in pay Band PB-3 and Hav. and
their equivalents, presently in Pay Band , PB-1 along
with Class IV employees to be placed in Pay Band,
PB-2 as their civilian counter-parts drawing same, or
even less, pay in 5th CPC have been placed in upper
Eventhough the article on pay band change of SNCOs of
IAFdealt with the subject in lengthsupported by
concrete arguments and reasons , Ipersonally feel thattheissue needs to be examined in the light
ofthe recommendationsand subsequentapproval ofthe GOI. The GOI has added insult to injury by
endorsing the recommendationof the pay commission in this
There is no doubt that the tempers are running high among the SNCOs as a
class over the issue .But most of them are unable to express or convey their
protestin the matter as they are busy engaged in the prime task
ofmeeting the ends togetherwith the small pensions
they earn.The predicamentof the servingonesarewell known.
The sixth pay commissionhas keptall the
scalesupto S8 OF THE 5 th pay commission in PB-1. Scale S9 was
kept inPB-2 .It can be seen thatthe starting pay
ofS8-was4500-125-7000.Soit can be seen that anyscale whichhad a starting pay more than 4500 in the 5 th pay commissionqualifies to be placed in thepb-2. But to the
grossdisadvantagex group sergeants of IAFwhohad astarting basic payof
5000 as per 5th pay commission isplaced in pay band
-1.TheGOI owes an explanation tothe x group
sergeantsregarding the reason and logic behind thisinjusticeperpetuated against themwhich
amounts to utter discrimination to the disadvantage of combatant soldiers when
compared tocivilian employees.
Let us approach this PB issuethrough another angle. The
starting basic pay of x group sergeants are 5000, which when multiplied by
1.86[the pay commissionfactor] gives 9300. It can
be seen that the starting pay of pay band -2 is also9300. Now ,
how can the denial of the eligible pay band 2 to x group sergeants bejustified.
Needless to add thesergeant promotion is
limited bythe availabilty ofvacancies and is a
selection post withrigorous selection standardsdetermined byexamination andannual
By following the well established convention oftaking
abeneficial view and upgrading the salariesto
avoid anomalieswhenpay scales are
determinedtheGOIshould upgrade the
pay band of allsergeants to PB_2.It is theirentitlement with respect to their qualification, nature of job and skills
involved.The accommodationof sergeants in SNCOs mess where they
hold importantappointments as property member etc reveals their
special status . Thiswill avoid furthercontroversies andanomalies byupgrading
onlyx group sergeants
Every pay commission creates anomalies which are dutifully rectified by the government sooner or later.But the sixth pay commision has created an irony instead of an anomaly. The matter refered to is that of assigning the sergeants of the Indian Air Force to pay band -1. It is an irony because it categorises the guard commander and the guard , the instructor and the trainee, the leader of a technical team and its members, all into one goup . The reason or logic behind this unjustifiable action is still not known.
The sergeants from technical trades are normaly equated to diploma holders and most of them have 10 years of service to their credit. The non technical tardesmen have specialised knowledge in their respective fields with more than 12 years of service. While all other similarly placed employees in the civil side are palced in the pb-2 the combatant sergeant is kept in the pb-1, which is a blatant violation and denial of natural justice to the prominent and vital rank of the Air force.
It will be interesting to have a closer look at this sergeant rank which is placed in the lowest pay band by the 6 pay commission. Earlier the sgts and flight sergeants were called SNCOs and were the backbones of the air force as far as jobs both technical and non technical were concerned.They enjoyed an element of respect from their seniors and the juniors looked upon them as their role models in Air Force. But in the long run the flight sergeants got redesignated and became junior warrant officers. But the sergeants continued to be known as SNCOs with the same clout and status. The special status of the sergeants can be seen from the fact that they continue to be accomodated in SNCOs mess along with warranted ranks unlike in the army where havildars are not accomodated in the JCO mess.
Natural justice demands that they be placed in the PB-2 and their status restored. This demand becomes all the more relevant when others with even less basic pay as per 5 th pay commission [like master craftsmen etc] are assigned to PB -2. The discontent and feeling of being let down among the SNCOs are aroused by the fact that the top brass and the EX Service ORG. has not taken any meaningful step in this regard. This is an earnest appeal by an EX SNCO URGING PAY BAND UPGRADATION OF SERGEANTS of the IAF and not an eulogy or a post mortem of the lost status of SNCOs with respect to PAY BAND.
AC Y 5327 5540 5753 5966 6179 6392 6392 6392 6392 6392 6392
The above tables are based on the folowing:
1.Max. of V pay scale of each rank X 1.86+ Xgp pay + gp+msp/50% or 70%.
2.Weightage @ 6,8,10 years subject to max. 30 years.
3.No Classification allowance is taken into consideration.
4. GP of AC/LAC=2000, CPL= 2400, SGT=2800, JWO=4200, WO=4600 & MWO=4800
5. The difference between X Gp CPL & LAC is only Rs.675 whereas, the difference due to 2 years extra weightage is Rs. 882/- therefore, the weightage of 10 years given to LAC is making the difference.
(with this I hope the doubt of some people expressed on this blog cleared)
Air Force Pay Scales V Pay Commission MWO WO JWO SGT CPL LAC AC
Group X 7400-200-10200,6750-190-9700,5770-140-8290,5000-100-6500,4150-70-5200,4025-60-4925, 3675
Group Y 6750-200-9550, 6600-170-9320,5620-140-8140, 320-85-5595, 3900-70-4950, 3650-60-4550, 3250
Group Z 6600-200-9400, 6180-155-8650, 5200-125-7450,3775-85-5050, 3200-70-4250, 3080-60-3980, 3050
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The Defence Minister, Shri A K Antony lighting the lamp to inaugurate the Defence Accounts Day 2009 function, in New Delhi on October 01, 2009. The Controller General of Defence Accounts, Smt Bulbul Ghosh and the Secretary (Defence Finance), Smt Indu Liberhan are also seen. Photo no CNR- 27862
Thursday, October 01, 2009
The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony has stressed that all men in the Armed Forces must get all their pay arrears relating to the Sixth Central Pay Commission well in time before Diwali. Addressing the Defence Accounts Day function here today, Shri Antony commended the officials of the Controller General of Defence Accounts for adopting computerisation and speeding-up the salary computation systems.
“One of the major challenges before you all is to render prompt, efficient and hassle free pensionary services to nearly 2 million Ex-servicemen and other retired Defence Personnel”, Shri Antony said. The Defence Minister called upon the Defence Accounts officials to implement optimally the austerity measures announced recently by the Government. “The Prime Minister has underlined the importance of service delivery mechanisms”, he added. Samir/DM/PK/RAJ
“Pay arrears before Diwali”, Antony’s gift to the Armed Forces
IESL/13/2009 Dt. 5 Oct.2009
To : Sh. A.K.Antony,
Minister for Defence ,
Govt of India,
South Block, Sena Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 011.
Sub: Post –Sixth CPC Demands of Veterans.
The veterans, all over India, were, in fact, highly elated on your announcement in regard to the payment of all arrears, in respect of sixth CPC to Veterans(ex-servicemen) before Diwali.
This organization takes liberty to remind, your good-self, that the orders regarding your Government's much publicized announcement, One Rank One Pension for PBORs (Veterans below the Commissioned Ranks) has not been issued yet. As such, how can they expect their arrears of One Rank One Pension before Diwali?
Is it a clerical delay or otherwise ? But, Sir, it will not be out of place mention that if the same is delayed, credit for doing good things will be taken by your adversaries. The Veterans are thinking to celebrate BLACK DIWALI if they are not given One Rank One Pension before Diwali.
Now it is up to your what it wants to do.
But we, on our part, would wish to remind you to do the needful at the earliest and garner the well wishes from the veterans for your government.
With a hope for an early action,
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
Copy to; S.Harbans Singh ,Director, Pesion, Deptt. of
SainikWelfare, Ministry of Defence.Govt
of India, Sena Bhawan, New Delhi for
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
As rightly said by Vet. Prabhujyot Singh President of IESL & Vet. Gavini the time has come to raise a voice against use of a word PBORs. Like submitting memorandam by Vet. Prabhujyot Singh all the Ex-Servicemen organisations must send their Memorandom to MOD on this issue. In all Central Govt. organisations Group'D' staff are now called Group'D' Officers. As Ex-Sgt.Babu comented on Sgt.Gavini's Blog, We the SNCOs,NCOs etc. are maintaning the most Sophisticated Aircraft & Equipment in the World. The ranks have to be respected. We will hilight this issue in all possible way. join the movement...
The GOI appointed a committe e of secretaries to look into and rectify the anomalies and complaints which created a lot of hue and cry by the defence pensionerswhuich was dutifully highlited by the media. The most important complaint was regarding the wide gap that existed between the pre- and post 2006 pensioers'.Tthe other major demand was to equalise the pension of all retirees who were given pension as per thre different tables. The sixth pay commission created one more class of pensioners raising the number of classes of pensiners to four.
The most importanrt and long standing demand was that of OROP WHICH WAS REJECTED DOWNRIGHT by the COS and also made a categorical reference that any attempt to usher in OROP is to be opposed tooth and nail AND QUOTED, SC JUDGEMENTS selectively and recommendations of the law and finance ministries to that effect.In the process of quoting it turned a blind eyeto the recommendations of the parliamentary committees, recent judgements of the SC favouring OROP [major gen. case] and the reference made by her ex. the prsident in the floor of the house and the emtional act of the sodiers in returning their hard earned and precious service medals.
However the committee after deliberations came to the conclusion that there should only be two categories of pensioners, that is pre 6 pay commision and post 6 pay commission. so far so good.
Thecommittee also felt that the gap between these two categories of pensioners are to be bridged towards the cause of natural justice. A very resonable conclusion by all standards.but the committee was cruel enough to call this recommendation to meet the ends of justice a new CONCESSION and stated that the effective date of implementation will be prospective in nature. what a wonderful sense of reasoning.THE COMMITTEE AGREeS THAT 1 THE GAP IS CREATED BY THE 6 PAY COMMISSION SINCE 01012006,2 THE GAP IS TO BE BRIDGED TO MEET THE ENDS OF NATURAL JUSTICE. but the commission recommends tobuild this bridge for the cause of natural justice to the demands of the jawans with SPANS MISSING. a wonderfull brdge with spans missing from 10101206 to the date of theimplemantation. so much for the demands of the JAWANS.
The most astonishing fact is that exservice organisations both recognised and unrecognised have conviniently ignored the case of this MISSING SPAN IN THIS PROMISED BRIDGE. this mising span is sure to deprieve the jawans of the arrears for about 44 months at the rate of 1900 to 1200 rupees per month. hence this blog seeks the attention of all concerned who can be of any help to solve thecase of this missing span.